tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post4242939039879892896..comments2024-03-24T20:02:50.012-07:00Comments on Bioethics Discussion Blog: Preserving Patient Dignity (Formerly Patient Modesty) Volume 111Maurice Bernstein, M.D.http://www.blogger.com/profile/07618638650784869923noreply@blogger.comBlogger196125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-41136757450172502532020-07-15T15:59:00.582-07:002020-07-15T15:59:00.582-07:00As of July 15 2020, there will be NO FURTHER POSTI...As of July 15 2020, there will be NO FURTHER POSTINGS OF COMMENTS in Volume 111. Comments can continue on <a href="https://bioethicsdiscussion.blogspot.com/2020/07/preserving-patient-dignity-formerly.html" rel="nofollow">Volume 112</a> ..Maurice.Maurice Bernstein, M.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07618638650784869923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-46838473529340998682020-07-15T12:41:02.056-07:002020-07-15T12:41:02.056-07:0058flyer,
I have been thinking about what happened...58flyer,<br /><br />I have been thinking about what happened to you some more, and perhaps this is something that you need to relay to the practice: Instead of initially shaming you and attempting to force upon you what was convenient for them, the tech should have explored your concerns. This was very <b>PATERNALISTIC</b>. (You should tell them they behaved paternalistically.)<br /><br />The definition of paternalism is the provider making choices for the patient based on the PROVIDER'S values and NOT taking into account the patient's preferences and wishes.<br /><br />What they did was <b>TRIGGER</b> and <b>RE-TRAUMATIZE</b> you, and <b>HUMILIATE</b> you in front of the staff. I would question your treatment in regards to their patients' bill of right (all say you will be treated with <b>DIGNITY</b>. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />-- Banterings<br /><br /><br /><br />A. Banteringshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05026455474056909739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-78805069873648143812020-07-14T13:42:51.559-07:002020-07-14T13:42:51.559-07:00JF et al, there is no Volume 112 as yet. I have re...JF et al, there is no Volume 112 as yet. I have received only one graphic contribution to place on that Volume when created. I am going to wait a bit more for others to also contribute their suggested graphic pertinent to our general topic. Present me with your suggestion as a graphic file. Send it to:<br />doktormo@aol.com Thanks. ..Maurice.Maurice Bernstein, M.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07618638650784869923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-33874617287165210622020-07-14T10:59:05.074-07:002020-07-14T10:59:05.074-07:00Dr B. I don't see how to get to. Volume 112 JF... Dr B. I don't see how to get to. Volume 112 JFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-41599352220789547572020-07-11T13:57:55.034-07:002020-07-11T13:57:55.034-07:00We are in the 190s with regard to the number of po...We are in the 190s with regard to the number of posts written to this blog thread Volume 111 on "Preserving Patient Dignity (Formerly Patient Modesty) during the past 2 months. It is time to move on to Volume 112. For each of the Volumes in the past, I have researched and procured the pertinent graphic for the Volume. I thought, for Volume 112, I would request my readers to offer me their selected graphic for me to select. So for upcoming 112, e-mail me a graphic file you think would be a worthy one to continue with the current conversation. <br /><br />Write and send the attached graphic file to: doktormo@aol.com for my review and possible use. Thanks.. ..Maurice.Maurice Bernstein, M.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07618638650784869923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-7023005737070166402020-07-11T09:49:22.615-07:002020-07-11T09:49:22.615-07:00I'll add 1 last comment for me anyway.
Wrong ...I'll add 1 last comment for me anyway.<br /><br />Wrong is wrong and right is right. It doesn't matter how you spin it or try to explain it. <br /><br />Culture comes from the top down. <br /><br />You can go to 1 hospital that sucks or go to 1 down the road that's great. Now if they would just put a sign on the door letting us know who's who. Doctors are the same way. I find there are many more good than not. Same for priests, police, nurses, and on. It's just life. <br /><br />Never trust anyone 100% unless it’s family or God. That's just a gift I got from being traumatized. And it's paid off for me.Briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-74105178507622981222020-07-10T08:01:12.958-07:002020-07-10T08:01:12.958-07:00Hello,
58flyer, I can appreciate your situation. ...Hello,<br /><br />58flyer, I can appreciate your situation. I wish you all the best.<br /><br />ReginaldAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-65980366414512350272020-07-10T00:11:05.637-07:002020-07-10T00:11:05.637-07:00Biker, thanks for the response. I think it was a v...Biker, thanks for the response. I think it was a valuable learning session for them. <br /><br />Reginald, thanks for the response. Actually, the male tech was working with a female patient. I wasn't provided specifics, and I knew not to ask, but being a urology practice one could imagine something intimate. I feel quite sure he had a chaperone though. <br /><br />Reginald, one thing I have to keep in mind, following the experience with my prior urologist, is how I may be viewed by the doctor and the staff. I don't want to be seen as a difficult or problem patient. That's what led me to be discharged by my prior doctor. I really really want to stay with this practice, especially since they have male assistive staff, but also since the doctor has hospital privileges, something the prior doctor didn't have. He had to do everything in-house, or it wasn't done. That's a huge limiting factor considering the amount of BPH and cancer treatments available in the hospital setting. So, while my discharge by the prior doctor was distressing, it may have been a blessing in disguise. I don't want to be discharged by the current practice, so I have to choose my battles carefully. I have no doubt I got my point across, given their responses and apologies. In my last post I tried to get my message across right to the point, with as little words as possible. So, I didn't mention everything that had occurred. One of the things that did happen, was after the tech was so apologetic, I told her that I don't cry so easily and I was embarrassed by her catching me with flowing tears. I said to her that I have known my wife for 32 years and been married for 30 of those years and my wife has never seen me cry. Yet that tech had me crying within 5 minutes of my meeting her. So I think I got my point across, no point in pushing it any further. <br /><br />58flyer <br /><br />58flyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05572295552265218310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-14676484034679099882020-07-09T14:40:51.476-07:002020-07-09T14:40:51.476-07:00Banterings, thanks for your patho-behavioral disse...Banterings, thanks for your patho-behavioral dissection. .. Maurice. Maurice Bernstein, M.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07618638650784869923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-84825885257665416172020-07-09T13:06:35.819-07:002020-07-09T13:06:35.819-07:00As the profession of medicine tries to hold on to ...As the profession of medicine tries to hold on to what little paternalistic power that they may have left, the more that society despises them. The result is a rise in microaggressions and passive-aggressive behaviors towards them as well as other other healthcare providers. <br /><br /><br />-- Banterings<br /><br /><br />A. Banteringshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05026455474056909739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-87565440237845206252020-07-09T10:18:27.444-07:002020-07-09T10:18:27.444-07:00Hello,
58 Flyer, I am still astounded at the lack...Hello,<br /><br />58 Flyer, I am still astounded at the lack of courtesy that you were shown relative to the change in techs. Even if the change was sudden, you should have been informed at check-in that the male tech was not available; and, you should have been offered a reschedule. Again, I'm wondering if you would have been "instantly" informed, if you were female and a male tech was substituted. Although your visit apparently ended well, the anxiety you endured was unacceptable. You may wish to send a copy of your post to the office so that the supervisor is fully apprised of what you endured. Your statements can then be read by all personnel and, possibly, by the doctor. Please take the effort to inform the office in writing. Take care.<br /><br />Reginald Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-44914083376254208862020-07-09T09:03:41.136-07:002020-07-09T09:03:41.136-07:0058flyer, it sounds like you handled it very well, ...58flyer, it sounds like you handled it very well, and though not initially, once all the info was out it sounds like the staff handled it well too. My guess is they learned a few things that day and that future male patients will benefit as a result of your efforts. Bikerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14337739874615826612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-57474830844942939282020-07-09T00:48:11.163-07:002020-07-09T00:48:11.163-07:00Part 2.
The lady MRI tech was respectful and I ma...Part 2.<br /><br />The lady MRI tech was respectful and I maintained my usually respectful demeanor so things were not too terribly tense. But my heart was pounding and I was starting to stammer. I felt tears welling up in my eyes and I hoped she didn't see that. I am not a cryer but now it was really getting to me. I needed to stay in control. I am the boss here and my clothes were not coming off unless I was willing, which at this point was not the case. I said I would reschedule but I needed assurance that this would not happen again. She said she could see no way to do that, so I then asked her to introduce me to her supervisor. She said she would bring her supervisor to me right away. The tears were really close to dropping at this point and I turned away so she wouldn't see that. I assumed she went to get the supervisor but when I turned around she was still standing there. The tears dropped over onto my face mask and I used the mask to wipe then away. She asked if I was OK and I said I was. She then left to get her supervisor. She and the supervisor returned quicker than I expected as I was still wiping the tears with my face mask when they came to me. I explained the situation about the male tech that was assured me and naming names so they knew I wasn't making them up. The supervisor turned out to be an RN with an MSN according to her name badge. She asked why I was so concerned about the MRI and I told her about the abuse history and why it had me so upset about this MRI. She said there was nothing to be concerned about the MRI as it was so benign and there would be no exposure. I then mentioned the ERC as being VERY exposing. She asked where did I get that idea! I said from the form I was given the day I scheduled. She then said that they haven't done the ERC since they got the 3T MRI system. The supervisor said where did I get that form? I said from the scheduler and told the name. The supervisor said she would be right back.<br /><br />The lady MRI tech was assuring me that things would be just fine when the supervisor returned. She had 2 forms, the one I was given and another one I should have been given. The newer form made no mention of the ERC and I apparently had been given an older form. The supervisor said that there were some older forms still floating around that end up being given to patients and that she would make it her priority to make sure all the old forms were discarded. I felt like an idiot at that point but the supervisor told me it was understandable that I felt the way I did especially with my past abuse history. The supervisor and the tech apologized profusely and offered to reschedule. I said I was fine with the female tech and to let's just get this done. <br /><br />The MRI went off just fine and the tech said I did very well and the images were excellent. She kept apologizing until I said don't apologize any more as it wasn't her fault that I had gotten the wrong information. I sensed she was genuinely concerned for my welfare. She mentioned that there had been some cancellations and no shows for the MRI and I suggested that the old form might have been at fault. She agreed. When it was all done she gave me a hug and wished me well. <br /><br />I am due to see the Urologist on the 21st so we will see where I stand with this cancer. <br /><br />58flyer 58flyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05572295552265218310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-47493879165763140712020-07-09T00:02:15.526-07:002020-07-09T00:02:15.526-07:00I recently posted that I was to have a prostate MR...I recently posted that I was to have a prostate MRI. After explaining my past abuse history to my my current urologist, he said that the MRI he was proposing had a male tech. Following that I asked the lady who was scheduling my MRI if they had a male tech and she assured me I was scheduled with a male tech. I have had several lower body MRIs in the past so I wasn't overly concerned about the prostate MRI. The practice gave me an information paper that stated all the things about the MRI, like no sex for 72 hours prior, no gas producing foods for the prior 24 hours, and do an enema about 2 hours prior, and other things that I took little notice of. After this visit, I left on a 2 week vacation with my son to some Civil War battlefields in Pennsylvania and Virginia, so I was not going to worry myself about the MRI until I got back. <br /><br />Once back home, I got a call reminding me of my pending MRI. I again asked the caller if I was scheduled with a male tech and she said that I was. I then took time to carefully read the MRI information form and it mentioned that I should expect an endorectal coil to be inserted. Wow! So I got online and did some research and found that an endorectal coil (known as an ERC) was an antenna covered by a latex condom and inserted into the rectum to help process the MRI images. Oh Boy! Glad I had a male tech assigned! Glad also I didn't see that before as I would have been worried during my vacation.<br /><br />The day of the MRI, I did my Fleet enema 2 hours prior as directed. I went to the Urology practice and signed in. I did the usual Covid stuff and awaited my turn. Soon a lady called my name and I was taken aback but I then assured myself she was just to take me back inside. As I walked by her I noticed that her embroidered scrub top indicated she was an MRI tech. Again, I just assumed she was taking me back for the male tech. It was a long walk to the MRI room which was located in another suite. I looked into the MRI room and didn't see any male tech. When stopped at the dressing room, she stated her name and said she was going to do my MRI. I promptly said "no you're not." I stated my previous contacts with the doctor and the other personnel along with names so she would see I wasn't making this up and then asked her what happened to my male tech. She said he was on another case that he was more experienced with and that she took my case. I asked her why, when you have a male patient in an intimate procedure assigned to a male tech, she would think it was OK to just assign it to herself without thinking to call that patient in advance and ask if it was OK to change techs? She looked confused and said that it just didn't occur to her to do that. I asked if she could go exchange places with the male tech and she said that wasn't practical. I asked if I could just wait until the male tech was available and she said the scheduling wouldn't permit that. <br /><br />I am going to post this in 2 parts so I don't go over the character limit.<br /><br />58flyer <br />58flyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05572295552265218310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-75684416891592218822020-07-08T16:46:07.334-07:002020-07-08T16:46:07.334-07:00Hello Brian,
As a person who has had two non-seda...Hello Brian,<br /><br />As a person who has had two non-sedated colonoscopies, I don't know how you listened to the ICU RN without laughing hysterically. You know that there is no "fighting the tube". Once the colonoscope passes the anus, what "fighting" is possible? There are no nerves in the colon to register distress. There might be a bit of pressure when the scope passes the bend in the intestine; however, that's it. You were given absolute misinformation to control the situation. That control might also involve giving the anesthesiologist and/ or the hospital more work and greater profits. You might have told her that this (ludicrous) "fighting" will not (from two previous experiences) apply to you. Why couldn't you be accommodated?<br />My GP recommended a colonoscopy. I told him that I'd "gladly" have one, if I could have it done without sedation and with male nurses. He recommended a gastroenterologist to whom I mentioned the same conditions. The gastro agreed and the procedure was done unsedated; and, I afterwards walked away within an hour. There was no sedation "hangover" and no one was necessary to drive me home. Additionally, there was no "fighting" and, no pain. <br />Most of Europe have colonoscopies unsedated. I guess they fight less. Patients can never attain medical autonomy, if they're given gross misinformation. Maybe it's time to talk to your local medical ethicist.<br />Please continue your search. You might find an older doctor who won't be intimidated by an awake patient. Take care.<br /><br />Reginald Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-31922485444879025552020-07-08T15:52:14.086-07:002020-07-08T15:52:14.086-07:00JF,
You're right. In this world, there is se...JF,<br /><br />You're right. In this world, there is selective accountability meaning some have to answer like people such as you or I. Then there are others who can do whatever they want and never face consequences. I do believe the concept of having patients naked, gowned, or otherwise originated as a need for power & control. It is done by enemy forces when they capture a prisoner as a means of control & power. The naked person is at a disadvantage in a roomful of uniformed persons & generally will be more submissive & compliant. The gown then makes the person loose their personal identity bc they are clothed just like everyone else in someone else's property thus taking away part of their personal identity. It is all about mind games just as the medical community uses words/vocab. to signal power & control. They try to take above you so you don't understand & you feel compelled to trust what they are saying. They use words like "order, must comply, etc." to show authority & who holds the power in the pt/dr relationship. Their questions are really statement that are supposed to leave no room for a refusal as you are not hearing a question being asked but rather they are looking for agreement. This type of behavior must be a secret class they teach bc most all of them have this attitude even the lowly mostly uneducated MAs.<br /><br />Brian,<br />I have written how sedation is the new tool used by the medical community since physical restraints aren't used anymore. Sedation does a better job as it mentally affects your abilities to reason, understand, etc. Versed and fentanyl are their weapons of choice as they each have qualities they need to control the patient. Versed makes a pt. submissive, uninhibited, and loss of memory. Fentanyl makes your physically incapable of moving, gives you a feeling of everything is good & wonderful plus a few other bonuses. They found using these drugs they don't have to deal with pts or pt concerns. Versed can also be a truth serum & many pts do/act in an entertaining manner for the staff. Versed makes you so very obedient like a trained seal. My husband refused both versed & fentanyl but it was injected into his IV against his knowledge/consent so it led to him having a procedure don't w/o his consent that he refused as well as being sexually abused by the female RNs. His exposure was intentionally done to harm him as there was no other reason for genital exposure lasting for hours and for genital exposure before & after the forced procedure. He felt like a captive who just had to lay there & suffer abuse as he could not move & could not form his thoughts into words. Bc of this, he won't seek care again. You are very smart not to want sedation as sedation is used as a weapon against patients in the wrong hands and you will won't know who those wrong hands are until after you have been harmed. I am really involved in social media and sedation harm is real and so is medical harm.JR Issues4Thought.comhttp://issues4thought.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-54425122515482423582020-07-08T15:10:58.237-07:002020-07-08T15:10:58.237-07:00Brian, 5 years ago when it was time for a colonosc...Brian, 5 years ago when it was time for a colonoscopy I figured I would just get it done at the local hospital. When I said I wanted it done w/o sedation I was told no they won't do it that way. I didn't argue with the scheduler or get angry. I simply said, no problem, I'll go to DH and get it done there instead. They already told me they were fine doing it w/o sedation. That got me an immediate "let me check with the doctor", and she got back to me that yes they would do it w/o sedation. Sometimes money talks.<br /><br />When the day came, the doctor did his darndest to talk me into being sedated. Apparently he had one done recently and couldn't fathom anyone doing it w/o sedation. With the procedure being a pain-free nothing to it kind of event, by time we were done the staff in the room were making fun of him for being such a baby about it. <br /><br />As an aside Brian, sedation makes me ill which is why I refuse it if at all possible. Maintaining control over my exposure is a side benefit. They are very careful to keep you covered when you are not sedated. I've long wondered to what extent patients are exposed, even if only momentarily, during colonoscopies once sedated. <br /><br />Not wanting to deal with that whiny doctor again, I did switch to the other hospital for my follow-up colonosocopy a year later as part of my overall switch of all my scheduled care. It is a minimum 1.5 hours drive each way but worth it for me. <br />Bikerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14337739874615826612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-50378056172989342732020-07-08T10:57:34.175-07:002020-07-08T10:57:34.175-07:00JR.
In my opinion the reason the people in char...JR.<br /> In my opinion the reason the people in charge made the veterans completely undress in the presence of females and the reason patients are made to completely undress or otherwise be ambushed all the exact same reasons. Maybe the staff in general don't mean it that way always but somebody created those ways of doing things. <br /> As far as getting the power to financially fleece the general population and control every aspect of our lives, it would probably take a long drawn out bloody battle in order to get things right. It isn't just the medical world. It's most empowered groups. How often do judges have to account for anything. Or children services? JFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-63307557815633789722020-07-08T08:04:21.171-07:002020-07-08T08:04:21.171-07:00I'm confused on how some of these things can b...I'm confused on how some of these things can be regulated and others just have to be dealt with by a change in attitude. In my specific instance, no regulation in the world would fix what happened to me. I don't think it was even intentional. But I tell you when my mother got to the hospital and found out what happened there was holy crap to pay. She went and got the head nurse and had me tell her what happened. Knowing my mother I would guess 1/2 the floor knew something bad was up. The head nurse genuinely looked concerned. Her only reply was "It will not happen again". Too late for me but maybe we saved some other kid from the horror. You can't regulate that. It takes common sense, compassion, and leadership. <br /> <br />My other more current experience is I won't get a colonoscopy done anymore because I can't find a Dr here willing to do it without sedation. I had 2 done when I lived in Georgia with a Dr that had no problem doing it like that. Here, none that I've found. From someone who has had 2 of them, I see no need for sedation. Maybe it’s easier for the Dr, but no medical need. Yet they want to charge over $1000 for the sedation and an anesthesiologist. It's not because of the money, I won't do it because I don't trust anyone, not even myself if you can believe that. I will not be sedated unless absolutely necessary. So the dilemma. This really isn't something that can be regulated. Dr's can say they have some legitimate reasons for doing it. But do they really? For me sedation is a line I won’t allow anyone to cross unless I'm combative. I'd rather die.<br /><br />I get the feeling some of what the medical profession does is for convenience. Talking with a ICU RN, she said they sedate all patients put on a ventilator because some patients "fight the tube" and it's for their comfort. So I guess the thought is just sedate everyone. When I asked her why not just sedate those that fight, there was no answer. Not happening for me. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't fight it. Take it from someone that gets their cavities filled without Novocain. Sedation is out. Even if I die. But how do you regulate that? Briannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-40723896636467026482020-07-07T19:22:35.725-07:002020-07-07T19:22:35.725-07:00The problem with trying to Congress to do anything...The problem with trying to Congress to do anything is again the hold the chokehold the medical lobbyists have on the politicians. The medical lobby is probably the strongest and richest. They own most politicians body and if they had souls, their souls. If the medical lobby doesn't want reform there will no reform. By the way, the own politicians on both sides of the aisles. They believe in equal opportunity corruption. There have been patients who have tried to talk with politician but to no avail. They simply do not care. The only way they will care is if the public becomes educated enough and starts to speak out/up and lets them know as a collective whole, how healthcare is delivered needs to be reformed/changed. Right now, the mass of amounts of money and power the medical community has speaks louder than patient harm. I have grown my Twitter following and have regular conversations. Sadly, though many who are called patient advocates have sold out to the medical community. We need major reform on informed consent, patient autonomy, patient dignity, medical record falsifications and criminal consequences for intentional harm or even reckless acts like in everyday life. We need to change medical oversight and no more self-policing as this just makes wrongdoing flourish. We need to give patients immunity from legal action if they speak out against medical treatment they have received. This would be like vaccine makers have immunity from any and all harm. No one should have greater harm done to them when they seek medical care. We need to recognize this happens and put an end to being complacent with allowing harm to happen and even flourish. No patient should have to live in fear of what was medically done to them and what might medically be done to them in future. Medical treatment should erase basic human rights.JR Issues4Thought.comhttp://issues4thought.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-57897105236103857762020-07-07T19:04:55.379-07:002020-07-07T19:04:55.379-07:00JF, I apologize to you. It was JR to whom I was re...JF, I apologize to you. It was JR to whom I was responding. Thanks. ..Maurice.Maurice Bernstein, M.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07618638650784869923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-50019785205670403332020-07-07T17:58:55.014-07:002020-07-07T17:58:55.014-07:00Dr B, That was JR. JFDr B, That was JR. JFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-51832107257821434142020-07-07T15:49:24.392-07:002020-07-07T15:49:24.392-07:00JF, I agree but what followed set the importance o...JF, I agree but what followed set the importance of the public looking toward the Congress to make corrections: " But now what recent news about police has stimulated Congress to try to act may encourage patients to inform Congress about the medical system of the United States. If the medical system doesn't do anything about what bad things done which have been described here, the best approach would be to bring it up to Congress to drop some strong laws into the medical system's basket."<br /><br />As Congress has taken a hand in so many aspects of the medical system certainly, professional misbehavior should be another aspect---particularly since in many situations it is the federal government that is involved in contributing $$$ into that system. That is the basis for encouraging those writing here with misbehavior complaints within the medical system to bring it to Congressional attention beyond my old expression "moaning and groaning" on this blog thread, as an example. ..Maurice.Maurice Bernstein, M.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07618638650784869923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-7095321058185977012020-07-07T15:02:50.933-07:002020-07-07T15:02:50.933-07:00cr,
What Dr. B. said in his post sounded very pol...cr,<br /><br />What Dr. B. said in his post sounded very political to me as he said "...when(if) the Democrats..." in the June 26th post. It made it sound as if the other party was doing nothing but they is not at all true. They can do nothing bc neither party will cooperate at the present with one another. I was very taken aback by this but then most in the medical profession are progressives especially in certain areas which may explain why patient dignity is not a big issue for them.JR Issues4Thought.comhttp://issues4thought.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7571658.post-90231889927076481182020-07-07T10:00:51.286-07:002020-07-07T10:00:51.286-07:00cr, I am not sure that I inferred what you suggest...cr, I am not sure that I inferred what you suggested. I think that police reform should be an agreement by both political parties just as needed reform in elements of the medical system including healthcare costs and payments should be a "together" agreement and conclusion by both political parties. <br /><br />Yes, we need the medical industry but as in all of medical practice, the orientation should be by all parties involved attention to the needs of the patient and not extra income. Firemen should have a goal to "put out the fire" and save property and lives. All the elements of the medical profession and through govenmental acts should should display and carry out the same goal. ..Maurice. Maurice Bernstein, M.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07618638650784869923noreply@blogger.com